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Al ir a fotogorafiar el reloj, he encontrado un marcaje que autentificaría lo dijo: DRGM KRUPP EDELSTAHI. Las iniciales DRGM fueron utilizadas durante el III Reich (Deutsches Reich Gebrauchsmuster) y son la garantía de que los productos militares que se ofertan son auténticos.
Se trata de un Tresor-Festa, de la manufactura Alpina/Dugena, que en sus comienzos hemos de relacionar con Gruen y Aegler. Curiosa la doble inscripción de Tresor y Festa, ya que en realidad son dos modelos distintos de Alpina, considerados los de más calidad (vide Ranfft Watches).
Alpina, Union Horlogère SA, Bienne, Genève, Besancon, Berlin
1883: The Union Horlogère (UH) or Vereinigte Uhrmacher Alpina (VUA) was founded by Gottlieb Hauser as association of leading manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers to unify the purchase and distribution of watch and clock parts. Soon genuine calibres were designed, and manufactured by the Alpina Ebauche Factory of Duret & Colonnaz in Geneva.
1905: The U.S. companies Gruen and Hamilton joined the association.
1909: Alpina Union Horlogère founded the Präcisions-Uhrenfabrik Alpina in Glashütte.
1917: Due to political reasons near the end of WWI separation into the Union Horlogère SA in Biel/Switzerland and the Alpina Deutsche Uhrmacher-Genossenschaft GmbH (ADUG) in Berlin/Germany.
1929-1937: Alpina Gruen Gilde SA, a merger of both companies to coordinate production and distribution. A fameous child of this merger was the Doctors Watch, made by Aegler and sold under the brands Alpina, Gruen, Alpina-Gruen and Rolex-Prince. Aegler was later bought by Rolex.
1946: The German branch was reorganized and restarted in Darmstadt as DUGENA, Deutsche Uhrmacher-Genossenschaft Alpina.
1949: Registration of Alpina as brand of the manufacturer Straub & Co, Bienne. The company Alpina Union Horlogère continued, and distributed the Straub watches. The kind of this cooperation is fuzzy: Straub is known as member of UH, and definitely most movements of newer Alpina watches were made by Straub.
Remarks
Although Alpina watches came from several sources, they had externally a uniform appearance:
The name Alpina was restricted to watches of higher to highest grade, while moderate to medium qualities came with the A surrounded by circle and triangle.
Further, brands like Festa, Siegerin, Terval were used for special types of watches or special markets, e.g. Tresor for very rugged watches.
As far as no photos of movements with Alpina signature are available, they are replaced by examples with the original manufacturer signature. This gives already a reasonably broad survey over the calibres used by Alpina.
Según el Ranff, los posibles movimientos que montaría serían: Alpina 586 y con más posibilidad Alpina 543 (base Venus 65 modelo antiguo). Pero investigado en asunto, monta una Alpina 625:
El modelo está provisto de un magnífico armis integrado original (que no he podido desmontar): lleva el mismo marcaje que la caja (EDELSTAHI sin el Krupp), con la omisión al DRGM y punzones
Saludos cordiales
Al ir a fotogorafiar el reloj, he encontrado un marcaje que autentificaría lo dijo: DRGM KRUPP EDELSTAHI. Las iniciales DRGM fueron utilizadas durante el III Reich (Deutsches Reich Gebrauchsmuster) y son la garantía de que los productos militares que se ofertan son auténticos.
Se trata de un Tresor-Festa, de la manufactura Alpina/Dugena, que en sus comienzos hemos de relacionar con Gruen y Aegler. Curiosa la doble inscripción de Tresor y Festa, ya que en realidad son dos modelos distintos de Alpina, considerados los de más calidad (vide Ranfft Watches).
Alpina, Union Horlogère SA, Bienne, Genève, Besancon, Berlin
1883: The Union Horlogère (UH) or Vereinigte Uhrmacher Alpina (VUA) was founded by Gottlieb Hauser as association of leading manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers to unify the purchase and distribution of watch and clock parts. Soon genuine calibres were designed, and manufactured by the Alpina Ebauche Factory of Duret & Colonnaz in Geneva.
1905: The U.S. companies Gruen and Hamilton joined the association.
1909: Alpina Union Horlogère founded the Präcisions-Uhrenfabrik Alpina in Glashütte.
1917: Due to political reasons near the end of WWI separation into the Union Horlogère SA in Biel/Switzerland and the Alpina Deutsche Uhrmacher-Genossenschaft GmbH (ADUG) in Berlin/Germany.
1929-1937: Alpina Gruen Gilde SA, a merger of both companies to coordinate production and distribution. A fameous child of this merger was the Doctors Watch, made by Aegler and sold under the brands Alpina, Gruen, Alpina-Gruen and Rolex-Prince. Aegler was later bought by Rolex.
1946: The German branch was reorganized and restarted in Darmstadt as DUGENA, Deutsche Uhrmacher-Genossenschaft Alpina.
1949: Registration of Alpina as brand of the manufacturer Straub & Co, Bienne. The company Alpina Union Horlogère continued, and distributed the Straub watches. The kind of this cooperation is fuzzy: Straub is known as member of UH, and definitely most movements of newer Alpina watches were made by Straub.
Remarks
Although Alpina watches came from several sources, they had externally a uniform appearance:
The name Alpina was restricted to watches of higher to highest grade, while moderate to medium qualities came with the A surrounded by circle and triangle.
Further, brands like Festa, Siegerin, Terval were used for special types of watches or special markets, e.g. Tresor for very rugged watches.
As far as no photos of movements with Alpina signature are available, they are replaced by examples with the original manufacturer signature. This gives already a reasonably broad survey over the calibres used by Alpina.
Según el Ranff, los posibles movimientos que montaría serían: Alpina 586 y con más posibilidad Alpina 543 (base Venus 65 modelo antiguo). Pero investigado en asunto, monta una Alpina 625:
El modelo está provisto de un magnífico armis integrado original (que no he podido desmontar): lleva el mismo marcaje que la caja (EDELSTAHI sin el Krupp), con la omisión al DRGM y punzones
Saludos cordiales
